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Lovedoll_co_uk 06-08-2019 02:10 PM

Forget Women
 
hi guys,

I'm wondering what you think of this article:
https://lovedoll.co.uk/blog/forget-w...ex-doll-robot/

PDutus 06-08-2019 05:15 PM

Interesting and insightful article (glad I seem not to be the only one who got creative with rubber gloves...)

It will be very interesting to see how the whole industry develops during, say, the next ten years, especially with the advancements in robotics.

Will they ever replace women completely? Of course not. But for many people, including couples, they will bring a lot of pleasure and emotional support, and this aspect needs to be emphasised to the media, who are only too happy to view them as objects of sexual gratification for sad types who are incapable of getting a human girlfriend.

I am in a long-distance relationship with a lovely woman. I have a doll for company when we are not together.

They are also, in my view, stunning works of art and I really enjoy photographing mine.

My problem is I like collecting nice and interesting things. This is why I shall end up owning more than one doll...

algaeholics 06-08-2019 06:34 PM

Nice article, though perhaps a bit too prejudiced and judgemental of the real thing in my opinion.

Popups are a tad annoying, please don't overdo it as it's a route to a promptly clicked 'X' button.

shamus 06-08-2019 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by PDutus (Post 161635)
It will be very interesting to see how the whole industry develops during, say, the next ten years, especially with the advancements in robotics.

I am expecting the DS Robotics entry into the market to be a game changer. Everyone at the moment seems to be concentrating on the wrong sort of AI and looking to be the first movers in the market where once someone brings a fully functional robot that is properly AI enabled (not programmed with a one track mind) to the market which is the route DS seem to be going then I believe that here will be a fundamental shift in the market... I think thats a lot closer than ten years away. Although I am expecting the first generation to be quite animatronics in their movement.
Unfortunately, if everyone waits for what comes next then there would be no what comes next so everyone buy some first gen robots whilst I sit here waiting patiently for a non hologram version of Joy from Blade Runner 2049 to be developed :D

Matt35uk 06-08-2019 07:32 PM

I like my doll precisely because I like women, not because I don't, so the title and I guess the spirit of the article doesn't really resonate with me I'm afraid, even though I don't really disagree with a lot of what it actually says.

PDutus 06-08-2019 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt35uk (Post 161647)
I like my doll precisely because I like women, not because I don't, so the title and I guess the spirit of the article doesn't really resonate with me I'm afraid, even though I don't really disagree with a lot of what it actually says.

Yes, I found the article interesting, but I also agree with you, Matt, in that I like Sophie because I like women and admire the beauty of the female form.

So, I would never forget women for a moment.

Seth 06-08-2019 08:14 PM

I think the article is good as it touches on some good points. I agree with others that it could be presented better.

The pop up offering advice about getting a girlfriend added a nice touch of irony.

revoL annaerB 06-08-2019 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Seth (Post 161652)
I think the article is good as it touches on some good points. I agree with others that it could be presented better.

The pop up offering advice about getting a girlfriend added a nice touch of irony.




LOL yes, I do likes me a bit of irony:D


Agreed with what others have said, good points ensconced in an almost misogynistic wrapper:rolleyes:

DanDub 07-08-2019 06:28 AM

A lot of truths in the article, for me dolls have replaced women as they are much better suited for me and a lot safer, haven’t had the desire for so called “relationships” for many years and that’s intensified over the past 5 years

mcsurfie 07-08-2019 07:15 AM

I'd only say Doll will only truly replace women once they can actually do the housework and like everything a man does without answering back. :D

dollgirl 07-08-2019 10:06 AM

Dolls don't hog the bathroom for hours at a time or fart in bed :D

mcsurfie 07-08-2019 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by dollgirl (Post 161699)
Dolls don't hog the bathroom for hours at a time or fart in bed :D

Really? Perhaps you should read this post :24

http://www.uklovedollforums.co.uk/fo...2&postcount=11

ecobod 07-08-2019 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by dollgirl (Post 161699)
Dolls don't hog the bathroom for hours at a time or fart in bed :D

My gal does, and the bed and the sofa.
eco

Lovedoll_co_uk 09-08-2019 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt35uk (Post 161647)
I like my doll precisely because I like women, not because I don't, so the title and I guess the spirit of the article doesn't really resonate with me I'm afraid, even though I don't really disagree with a lot of what it actually says.

that's great feedback Matt thanks

Lovedoll_co_uk 09-08-2019 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by algaeholics (Post 161640)
Nice article, though perhaps a bit too prejudiced and judgemental of the real thing in my opinion.

Popups are a tad annoying, please don't overdo it as it's a route to a promptly clicked 'X' button.

that's a great point, thank you for that

and noted about popups, they should only appear once in a while if you get rid but let me know if it doesn't

Lovedoll_co_uk 09-08-2019 08:57 AM

thank you all for your feedback

it's a hard one to gauge the overall feeling of the piece and you've got to come down somewhere

I think most people beginning their doll journey do have a more negative vision of women, and that's mostly who that article is targeting

I think dolls actually give men a greater appreciation of women and the longer they've been owners the more favourable they view women

would you guys agree with that?

algaeholics 09-08-2019 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Lovedoll_co_uk (Post 161810)
I think dolls actually give men a greater appreciation of women and the longer they've been owners the more favourable they view women

would you guys agree with that?

Tricky ball. I've swung my bat and this came out of it:

Dolls take the fear of rejection and inevitable heartache out of the mating equation. So perhaps I see women more as individuals now, rather than primarily potential mates...?

The ball is in the air now... :rolleyes: Someone catch it! :eek:

shamus 09-08-2019 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Lovedoll_co_uk (Post 161810)
thank you all for your feedback

it's a hard one to gauge the overall feeling of the piece and you've got to come down somewhere

I think most people beginning their doll journey do have a more negative vision of women, and that's mostly who that article is targeting

I think dolls actually give men a greater appreciation of women and the longer they've been owners the more favourable they view women

would you guys agree with that?

Hi Graham,

my first response in this thread was not really to the article so here goes with my appraisal.

I once dated a woman who worked on the reabilitation of young offenders and her opinion of all children seems biased by her interaction with these youths.

In a similar manner, if your opinion of those who have dolls is based only on a small subset of those who order dolls through your site then it may be corrupted into assuming that the data available is typical of the entire data population.

One cannot say "Most people" based on limited input but rather such is simply a personal feeling based upon one's own experience of the people that have spoken to you which will be a subset of those who have ordered from you. I feel that I switched off a little to the blogs on your site as they seemed to be treading a similar path of painting the many based on the experiences with some.

In my own case I have no issue with the fairer sex.... Much to my sons embarrassment as I have no issue chatting with women that I meet. I think that he only comes to Tesco's with me in order to take notes, lol. there's no great secret. You talk about them not you, you are never base or rude, and you make them laugh. Simples. Sure that he'll get it eventually.

I genuinely like women, always have, always will. But in my case I think that I relate more with the primary Japanese cause of doll ownership amongst professionals of there simply not being enough hours in the day for the time to devote to living one's life around a more tradtional relationship.

I think rather than recognising your clients as those unable to find a girlfriend perhaps your assumed customer and target demographic should instead be focused upon professionals who simply just do not have the time to have a career and a girlfriend.

If youperceived your client base that way, that might actually help also the one's who do need a doll for the reasons you give as rather than identifying themselves with a destructive mindset, they would actually be associated with something done by successful professionals which would reduce the risk of any self imposed stigma associated with doing something regarded as being an action of last resort rather than an action of choice.

There is of course the other Japanese issue of falling birth rates due in no small part to the work based culture which these girls are not able to help with.... Although my Holly does seem to have put on a few pounds :eek:

All the best,

Shamus.

DanDub 09-08-2019 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lovedoll_co_uk (Post 161810)
thank you all for your feedback

it's a hard one to gauge the overall feeling of the piece and you've got to come down somewhere

I think most people beginning their doll journey do have a more negative vision of women, and that's mostly who that article is targeting

I think dolls actually give men a greater appreciation of women and the longer they've been owners the more favourable they view women

would you guys agree with that?

I’d say for me dolls are a different entity (obviously) and i love and appreciate them for being them, as long as i been into dolls they haven’t given me any greater appreciation of women at all as the focus of my love and desire is my doll, i still see women as i always have....as women no more no less, just the desire for real women is not there anymore and hasn't been for a number of years

So i can either face facts or live a lie

Seth 09-08-2019 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lovedoll_co_uk (Post 161810)
I think dolls actually give men a greater appreciation of women and the longer they've been owners the more favourable they view women

would you guys agree with that?

I can't say owning a doll has changed my view of women for better nor worse. I've always treated them the same way I'd expect to be treated myself. It has changed how I view a relationship with a real life lady however. Having a doll in my life has lessened my desire to seek out a real partner.

Tomcat 09-08-2019 03:18 PM

Awesome posts :tu
It is said by alot people society is headed towards a robot / human future .
Depopulation is one thing .
Crazy how things have changed in past years and at fast pace .
Wounder if we get a hologram in our rooms :D

Matt35uk 09-08-2019 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Lovedoll_co_uk (Post 161810)
I think most people beginning their doll journey do have a more negative vision of women, and that's mostly who that article is targeting

I'd be interested to know why you think that. I'm not saying you're wrong as I can only speak for myself and the general attitude I've experienced on forums, but that's not the impression I've got at all.

Lovedoll_co_uk 10-08-2019 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by shamus (Post 161818)
Hi Graham,

One cannot say "Most people" based on limited input but rather such is simply a personal feeling based upon one's own experience of the people that have spoken to you which will be a subset of those who have ordered from you. I feel that I switched off a little to the blogs on your site as they seemed to be treading a similar path of painting the many based on the experiences with some...

Thanks for the great feedback Shamus and you're right, not everyone falls into this category. I've come across a wide range of individuals and I actually hang out with a guy who sounds very similar to you in terms of his view of women - he's very nice to be around. I've also come across guys who use dolls to kink up an already very active sex life.

It's a bit tough writing articles because if you make them too general, to encompass everyone, then you're not really writing to anyone specifically. However, as it's a recurring trend here, I'm definitely going to take on board the tips you guys are sharing, thanks :)

Lovedoll_co_uk 10-08-2019 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt35uk (Post 161832)
I'd be interested to know why you think that. I'm not saying you're wrong as I can only speak for myself and the general attitude I've experienced on forums, but that's not the impression I've got at all.

Thanks Matt, I think I should have probably phrased that different, to something like "dolls help men to appreciate women more". I say that as a combination of experience, speaking with doll owners over the years and hearing how things change, how they move into relationships for the first time or work through some issue they've had with women. I also use a bit of logic in that dolls are not judgmental and as men we often feel quite judged in our sexualities, so being given the freedom to express ourselves sexually, we most certainly will grow in our love for all things.

The-Doll-House 10-08-2019 08:43 PM

Hi Graham,

I thought that this may be food for thought.
I see your Post/podcast title and thought it may be beneficial if you were to interview me on the topic - as a self proclaimed MGTOW.

If you listen to the media, we all (MGTOW) hate women, and are basement dwelling incels etc etc.
So it may be good for people to hear what the dark side (MGTOW) have to say on that topic.

Just food for thought.
Let me know if you're interested.


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