One of the best doll stands in the market, REVIEW

[shamus]

Originally Posted by KKFun

Coeros sent me an extra for the neck M16 bolt connector. I did not use it as my girls have the back-hanging hole. It is almost 90 degree angle, so they might improve it already.


Another thing I would like to mention is the top M16 neck bolt, some doll makers recommend using that for long-term storage. Hence, it is strong enough.

If the full weight of a body is suspended by the neck from that there is a potential snap point between the main nut and the locking nut (the one with the washer).

There is also a secondary weakspot at the head of the bolt that goes through the L hanging bar. I believe that bolt needs to be much more substantial to withstand the fulcrum effect. (i.e. the bolt itself will be ok but at the pressure point the angle will increase the force effectively multiplying the load).

I'm not an engineer and I can see that. I'll drop For Real a PM and point him to this thread to see whether he can help out with the design.

Note that non of this is about the actual unit that looks really good quality. Its the M16 head connector which I don't think is right and thats what I would imagine that most sales on here would be for if people purchased one of these.

[shamus]

ok, I've sent FR a message. Fingers crossed he'll pick it up soon. Know that he loves this sort of engineering challenge.

[Tommo10]

I don't think it would break, when you see other older doll manufacturers ideas of suspending a doll with a 2x M6 bolts spot welded to each end of a thin piece of flat metal and they will hold a doll up for months, I am sure that will be alright. TBH several of my TPE and Silicone dolls have the M8 connector in their backs, the IT RLD I have on order I made sure that had one too, unfortunately my four stands take up half my house the legs project out 2ft, they are a early morning toe stubbing nightmare, KK's stand is very compact.

[shamus]

Originally Posted by Tommo10

I don't think it would break, when you see other older doll manufacturers ideas of suspending a doll with a 2x M6 bolts spot welded to each end of a thin piece of flat metal and they will hold a doll up for months, I am sure that will be alright. TBH several of my TPE and Silicone dolls have the M8 connector in their backs, the IT RLD I have on order I made sure that had one too, unfortunately my four stands take up half my house the legs project out 2ft, they are a early morning toe stubbing nightmare, KK's stand is very compact.

Hi Tommo,

its that its at an angle and putting pressure on a specific point. If the girls feet remain on the floor it would be fine but if lifted the tensile strength of the bracket itself looks fine but look at the point that would take the multiplied pressure of it being at an angle.

I'm expecting FR to read how I see it and have an "Ah bless, it's so sweet when they try" moment but I do think that he should take a look.

As I say in my posts. I think that the stand loooks really sturdy and good quality. Its just that M16 connector that I believe doesn't look right.

When FR tells me that I'm talking bollocks I'll happily say that I'm wrong but at the moment the weight that will be holding at an angle seems too much for that bolt.

I'm honestly thinking that it needs something similar to the bolt width that you get in railway sleepers to be able to hod that weight at that angle.

As I say, sure that FR will be along in a bit to tell me that I'm talking bollocks (it has been known ).

Shamus.

[Coeros]

Originally Posted by Adam&Emma

Stand looks impressive. I see what shamus is saying about this pic. The bracket is digging in to the skin. Can this not simply be flipped over 180 degrees so it hangs down above the neck joint

Originally Posted by shamus

I don't understand the angled piece as surely that would damage the TPE / Silicone?

It feels that should be a 90 degree angles joint but that would put more pressure on the joint and cause a potential snap where as is there is no single pressure point so I can see why they have done it that way but thats simply protection of the mechanism rather than the girl.

Should there not also be foam between the sharp bottom of the connector and the body? In fact at the base of the connector as well where it gets awfully close to the body, that surely needs some form of foam to protect the body as well espechially during mounting and unmounting.

Not trying to be pedantic. I can see the market for this sort of device. I just think that as is, the connection looks as though it has the potential to inflict some damage especially if used long term such as where used for a girl as a set peice display in a living room / hallway.

I have no doubt that it will do its intended purpose but my concern is for the girls body rather than only the posing.

The person you need to talk to is For Real who is an Engineer so may see the solutions that are needed to improve the design where I am mainly seeing the problems with this.

For M16 emerging connectors, 90 degree angles will cause the connector to be unable to bear the weight of the doll and will bend. However, we have modified this connector a month or two ago and equipped it with a turning screw. But it will also cause some friction with the doll's neck.

In addition, this stand is more suitable for dolls with holes in the back. Such a connector will not damage the doll.

In addition, I recommend using this stand to display dolls for photography. For long-term storage of dolls, a bath hanger is more suitable.

[Coeros]

Originally Posted by Adam&Emma

Stand looks impressive. I see what shamus is saying about this pic. The bracket is digging in to the skin. Can this not simply be flipped over 180 degrees so it hangs down above the neck joint

Originally Posted by shamus

Hi Adam,

That makes more sense and explains the angles as they would be going around the back of the head.

Its a vendor photo though who I assumed was also the manufacturer so the surely they would have known that?

Also, looking at it, it may still be a bit too close and cause pressure against the head TPE / Silicone. But, there wouldn't be the same level of weight pressure there.

Yes, I'm thinking that your right. the picture seems to be showing it installed incorrectly making me things that the vendor is perhaps not the manufacturer.

Originally Posted by cyan

It looks pretty handy but I'd want to know the results of long term placement with the neck connector, I would consider add adding some foam around the support bracket to perhaps reduce impact on our lovelies necks?

Originally Posted by algaeholics

The angled piece is to allow the head to fit on properly I expect.

Originally Posted by Lulu1971

I'd be concerned about damage to the neck with that design. Hair wouldn't always cover it depending on the style/length.

However, I have a Rachel. She stands up on her own even in high heels, whether on carpet or tiles

Hello,

After rotating the new M16 connector 180 degrees, the head cannot be installed, or it may cause significant damage to the doll's head.



Additionally, our product range is quite diverse; some are OEM products, and some are produced by us. This stand is a collaboration with Chinese doll enthusiasts and is manufactured by a factory on our behalf.

Best Wishes,
Coeros.

[Coeros]

Originally Posted by Seth

The bracket would foul on the head if it was the other way up. A 90º bend in it should be fine provided the plate is thick enough.

Yes, what you said is correct. We have indeed made improvements based on this.

[KKFun]

Coeros, you keep impressing me, and demonstrating the products in different situations right away. Bravo. Thanks.

[Coeros]

Originally Posted by KKFun

Coeros, you keep impressing me, and demonstrating the products in different situations right away. Bravo. Thanks.

Thank you once again for your support and encouragement. And I also look forward to you taking more doll art works.