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Flanders
17-07-2022, 08:30 AM
Hi all, I have been looking at Dolls to buy for some time over the last few years after a Teddy babe finally wore out.

I took the plunge the other week and purchased a Kimber doll as i was a doll newbie and really didn't know what i was getting myself into. The whole process was easy enough and i got to pick a date for delivery. The time arrived for delivery and i was really excited about it.
The delivery driver looked at his paperwork for my address and said that he would need some help with it. I knew she weighed nearly 30Kg which i felt confident in lifting but what i hadn't bargained on was the so called 'dead weight' of her. As such i nearly did myself an injury carting the box up two flights of stairs with the delivery man. My muscles are still killing me now. She is so heavy that you can't just slide your arms underneath it when it's lying flat on the bed. Every slight movement of her requires a lot of strength so if you are a future doll owner who is impressed with the looks of a doll try and get an idea of 'dead weight' before taking the plunge because you might not be able to get her up the drive!

I bought some clothes for the doll which i will dress her in and post up some pictures. The Kimber doll is very beautiful and looks great in just the basic lingerie that comes with her. The only problem for me is the weight! I'm just learning how to move and pose the doll in the easiest way using leverage rather than dead lifting all the time. It hasn't put me off doll ownership although any future dolls are going to have to be much lighter.

PDutus
17-07-2022, 08:54 AM
Hi Flanders and :welcome to the Forum from PD and the girls :)

Yes, weight is a major factor and the prime cause for people selling their dolls soon after acquiring them.

You learn the techniques for moving them that work best for you and there is a lot of advice on here.

My lightest girl, Miranda Louise, is 35Kg and my heaviest, Morgana (XY170) is around 48Kg! Most of mine are over 40Kg and I have learnt the ways of moving them that work best for me.

In time, you will find that it gets easier :)

Karrot
17-07-2022, 08:57 AM
Welcome to the forum!

OK, quick wins to get you going :D

Sating Pyjamas! (Long sleeve, Long Legs) they will help her tot slide about in bed a little better, you'll be able yo get an arm under her more easily, and trust me, boobs feel awesome under Satin!

If you dont like Satin (I find it to hot and sticky in summer) then any PJ's will do, but she wont slip over the bed sheets as easily.

White or a very light pink for preference in colour to avoid any risk of staining.


You'll get used tot he weight, it takes time. It's not like carrying a sack of spuds or being able to press xyz down the Gym. this is a human sized and shaped lump that wobbles about and doenst help you at all! Take is slow, and you'll be fine :D

K

Adam&Emma
17-07-2022, 09:02 AM
Im betting 99%of people say a similar thing. Ive always been fairly fit but when my emma arrived and i had to carry her up a flight of stairs i did wonder what the hell id got myself into. 2 years later and with 4 girls to look after I still make the old man noises when i pick them up although it does get a little easier as time goes. You learn ways to carry them and your strength will improve.
Best of luck and welcome to the forum.
Have a good long gaze in her eyes and she will tell you her name, you'll soon forgive her for the weight :tu

shamus
17-07-2022, 09:06 AM
Give her a chance. Your body learns how to lift these girls.

In the box there is nothing to get you hands around plus you have everything else thats in the box. packaging can also add around 7kg to her weight. By the time that you have that upstairs her actual weight will be forgotten and you will only be thinking of the struggle to get her there.

You're back is probably still recoving!

Out of the box, once you have fully recovered lift with the knee's, not the back.

The girl who seems twinned with a hippo at the moment will seem half her weight in two weeks when you have carried her around a little.

I'm in my sixties, I work in financial IT and the closest I get to a gym is seeing one on TV so not exactly a tonned adonis (much as I'm sure those who attend the iDome will try to disagree with me on that :21) but I've got a lot of these girls ranging between 26 and 38kg and happily wander around the house, including going up and downstairs with them.

It does get easier once you learn how to lift them (and every one is a little different).

Just don't overdo it. Give you're back a chance to rest until repeatedly moving her builds up more strength where it needs to be (takes about two weeks to see a real difference and you won't even notice that you are excercising).

Many congrats on your new girl and welcome to the forum,

Shamus.

Seth
17-07-2022, 09:07 AM
Welcome to the forum and doll life.

Moving them gets easier. I find sitting her on an office chair helps to get her around the house. The chair arms get in the way so its best to remove them.

Enjoy the honeymoon.

shamus
17-07-2022, 09:09 AM
Tut, no answers when I started writing. Press enter and find you're all in there faster than a ferret down a rabbit hole, lol.

reading through them though, we've definitely got a concensus reply though... It gets easier. :tu

Morning all :D

Karrot
17-07-2022, 09:19 AM
I'm in my sixties, I work in financial IT and the closest I get to a gym is seeing one on TV so not exactly a tonned adonis (much as I'm sure those who attend the iDome will try to disagree with me on that :21)

Shamus.

You have the body of a God, Shamus.



Buddah is god, right??

K
:whistle:

shamus
17-07-2022, 09:24 AM
you have the body of a god, shamus.



Buddah is god, right??

K
:whistle:

:21:24:21:21:24

GoodGollyMissDolly
17-07-2022, 09:27 AM
Hi Flanders, welcome. I'm new around here and a new owner too. I know what you mean about the weight, I was expecting the weight but I think what surprised me was the " stiffness " of moving her about. Luckily I will echo what the rest of the forum has been saying in that it does get easier very quickly. Watch a few videos and spend an hour with her just posing her and moving her about and you'll learn pretty quickly.
Office chairs are an excellent shout, also a small coffee table covered in a soft sheet I also find very useful for just quickly laying back, repositioning, then back up. Careful of sharp edges, like I say cover the table.
I've found loads of useful stuff on here since becoming a owner, have a dig about on here and you'll be put right on a lot of things.
Enjoy,

Ich Will
17-07-2022, 09:51 AM
You have the body of a God, Shamus.



Buddah is god, right??

K
:whistle:

Ganesha?



runs

shamus
17-07-2022, 09:52 AM
A few hints n toips to get you started.

1) They are easier to dress with the head off (But as you get to know her you feel guilty for doing it!).

2) skirts go on easier over the head

3) Powder them (I use cornflour, some others use talc) before attempting to get jeans on them.

4) body stockings prevent stains

5) Primark size xxs tops

6) Socks on their hands when they go to bed. Hands are real delicate. treat them as though they are made of egg shells.

7) Thermal styling hair brushes and / or tangle teasers

8) A different (cheap) wig for in the bed to out of it.

9) under wig nylon wig caps prevent wig staining

10) Get ready to learn the dark art of womens makeup. You will need a powder pallette, an eye shadow pallet (that has a white) and some quality brushes as you are effectively painting their faces. I also have a selection of lipsticks for them but you can also use eye shadow as lippy.

11) for cleaning off makeup / minor marks. White miro fibre cloth and Extra Virgin Olive Oil. The cloths work better as they age. New dry ones drink too much of the EVOL.

12) Lots of Cornflour or Talc. I apply cornflour to mine with a four inch sable paint brush (the brush has to be soft).

13) Keep her out of direct sunlight. UV light kills them.

14) white sheets and pillow cases in bed.

15) keep her cool. well away from radiators / hot pipes.

You will pick up loads more on here but thats a good starter checklist.

Have fun together and hurry up and tell us what her name is :tu

Shamus.

shamus
17-07-2022, 09:53 AM
Ganesha?



runs

Mmm, I never forget :21:24:21:21:24

Ich Will
17-07-2022, 10:00 AM
My Callie is supposed to be 32kg and I find it easy to carry her if she is in a seated position

start with her lying on your bed, raise one leg to 90 degrees, then bend her knee down, repeat with the other leg, then turn and raise her to be seated on the side of the bed

move the arm nearest to you away, so you don't damage either her arm or hands by crushing

with one arm under her knees, your other around her back, lift with your knees.

an office chair is a common suggestion for moving between rooms, as is checking the way is clear and doors are open, difficult to open a door when both your hands are full

and do take a look at https://www.uklovedollforums.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=16503&highlight=protection

Ich Will
17-07-2022, 10:01 AM
Mmm, I never forget :21:24:21:21:24

I obviously meant the big brain, not the body :24

shamus
17-07-2022, 10:14 AM
an office chair is a common suggestion for moving between rooms, as is checking the way is clear and doors are open, difficult to open a door when both your hands are full

Plus you get the added feel good factor of hearing them going Wheeeeee.... as you pull them from room to room.... What! Your's don't shout Wheeeee?.... I thought that everyone's did that!

Lol, When my Mother came to stay when she was on her last legs this time last year she couldn't walk at all. I would lift her out of bed (wouldn't have been able to do that without being a doll owner!), put her in an office chair and took her to the toilet that way. She did comment that it was such a clever idea. However did I think of it! :whistle:

Lol, reminds me. When moving the girls around in the room above her there would be quite a bit of floorboard creaking. She questioned what it was to which I responded that it was just the Elves. Bless, she thought I was joking with her :21:24

Adam&Emma
17-07-2022, 10:49 AM
Shamus you are far too modest. We've all seen you :tu

https://i.ibb.co/FhRzSgD/passionate-couple-kissing-boy-and-photo-090150980-iconl-nowm.webp (https://ibb.co/kGNXRQS)

Karrot
17-07-2022, 10:51 AM
Ganesha?



runs

Mmm, I never forget :21:24:21:21:24

To be fair my first thought was Nurgle :21:21:21:21:21

K

Karrot
17-07-2022, 11:01 AM
A few hints n toips to get you started.

3) Powder them (I use cornflour, some others use talc) before attempting to get jeans on them.


Or put tights on them first.


2) skirts go on easier over the head


Really?

OK so for anything that has to go over the hip/bum I use this method (I dont hand or stand my girls for dressing)

.Lay her on her back with her legs bent 90' straight up on a low table or the bed.
.Put on what ever it going on (jeans, skirt, Knickers, Bodysuit etc) and work it up to the hips/crotch
.Bend the knees 90' and part the legs slightly, then get you head between her knees and your shoulders behind her knees.
.Straighten yourself up and her hip will rise from the bed
.You now have both hands free to get whatever over her hips

Also Shameless plug but Maddie did cover some bedtime protection ideas
https://www.uklovedollforums.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=16503

K

shamus
17-07-2022, 11:12 AM
Shamus you are far too modest. We've all seen you :tu

https://i.ibb.co/FhRzSgD/passionate-couple-kissing-boy-and-photo-090150980-iconl-nowm.webp (https://ibb.co/kGNXRQS)

Nope, not me. That amateur would never get her through a doorway like that... Whats that you say River? Sideways you idiot????

To be fair my first thought was Nurgle :21:21:21:21:21

K

Its a fair cop :21:24

shamus
17-07-2022, 11:21 AM
Really?

OK so for anything that has to go over the hip/bum I use this method (I dont hand or stand my girls for dressing)



Ok, the caviat on that has to be chest size. The girls here are for the most part A-C cups. and the largest girl is an E so non on them are in Maddie territory.

Maybe an amendment to my advice would be where the chest is smaller than the hips then over the head is easier.

No lifting them on the bed. Just arms straight up into the diving position. skirt over the top and let it drop... Or for stretchy ones pull it down and have a spare skirt ready for when the first one looks good on her as a boob tube. :D

Djjusty 69
17-07-2022, 11:45 AM
:welcome Flanders to the group and on your first Tpe lady there is a wealth of knowledge and most have already said, if your stuck or don't know always ask someone will know for sure,, I guess I am about 3 months in so newish,, I have 3
Marie, Elsa and Mandy they vary in weight and it does get easier,, I am starting to get into my photography learning the basics and advice on here is awesome as well,
I am sure your gonna be happy with kimbers and a new name for her to follow, sit back settle in and enjoy your time together :tu

Adam&Emma
17-07-2022, 11:51 AM
Ok, the caviat on that has to be chest size. The girls here are for the most part A-C cups. and the largest girl is an E so non on them are in Maddie territory.

Maybe an amendment to my advice would be where the chest is smaller than the hips then over the head is easier.

No lifting them on the bed. Just arms straight up into the diving position. skirt over the top and let it drop... Or for stretchy ones pull it down and have a spare skirt ready for when the first one looks good on her as a boob tube. :D

on the subject of dressing i have to say ( and im not bragging) my single favourite doll accessory is the stand that I made to hang them from. Dressing up time is so much easier, apart from the time skye and the stand fell on top of me. Oh how we laughed :no:

Flanders
17-07-2022, 11:58 AM
Thanks for the welcome and advice. I had planned to hide her in the attic before i got her in case of sudden unappreciative visitors! That's obviously out of the question now so she stays under the bed wrapped in her blanket when i'm out.

I could certainly do with the 'unofficial' work out moving and posing her so that's a good thing.

I don't have a name in mind yet as i'm still just getting used to her presence;)

Gavla82
17-07-2022, 12:25 PM
Welcome Flanders and your soon to be named.

The girls do feel heavy because of the *dead weight*. My two are 29kgs and 34kgs.

I'd like to add to Ich Wills suggestion, before moving her to a sat position, with her legs in the air, you can put tights on her, skirt, shorts, jeans, etc. A lot won't go over the head, as you have to to go over the shoulders and this can turn into a struggle between you and your girl moaning you put the article of clothing the wrong end. Once you have the tights and lower clothing on, you can then shuffle her to the end of the bed, lower her legs down and with her feet positioned facing forward, stand her up. Then you can pull the tights, lower clothing item up.

We hope you find your connection with her and it will get easier in time. There are days I can't move my girls, so I don't. Chloe is evening lazier then me. :21

With names, I and know a few others have named their girls after women that don't share the same name. But I'm sure she will tell you soon enough. :tu

shamus
17-07-2022, 12:47 PM
A lot won't go over the head, as you have to to go over the shoulders and this can turn into a struggle between you and your girl moaning you put the article of clothing the wrong end.

just to emphasise. when I say over the head the arms go up into the diving position like this:

https://i.ibb.co/vq8PwRs/diving-position.jpg (https://ibb.co/bmnBWDH)

since shoulders now move its simple (much better than the old T skeletons where you are right you would have had almost a second hip at that point).

Hope that makes my approach clearer.

Shamus :tu

Gavla82
17-07-2022, 12:51 PM
Ohh, forgive me, not long woke up and was looking at Chloe at the time of writing and was thinking "How on earth does Shamus get the skirt over the shoulders with the arms in their natural down the side position?" Now I understand. https://emoticons.datahamster.com/facepalm.gif

Only thing I get weary about doing that, is the constant moving the arms in that position and getting stretched skin in the arm pits.

Tex
17-07-2022, 12:56 PM
Good point, Julia had an under arm "incident" on both sides doing that. Saved by Sil-Poxy and luckily usually hidden.
That is where a fixed head can be unhelpful.

Lulu1971
17-07-2022, 03:46 PM
Welcome to the forum and congratulations on your new girl. Looking forward to seeing her when she has settled in.

As many others have said, the weight aspect does get easier as you get used to carrying your girl around and moving her into different positions.

You'll find heaps of useful information hear and any questions, just ask - we've all been there :D

Avonman1
17-07-2022, 06:19 PM
Welcome to the new world of dolls. I have 2 Kimbers, 1 very soft tpe and 1 normal, why they are different I don't know. As one of these doll owners who had to take a 50/55 up 2 flights with the courier which was heavy but I also had to take another 50/55 out of box on one floor and had to bear hug up to my floor so I know how heavy some of them are.
Best way to move the girls as you've been told is to move their legs and pick up as a bride. Some of mine I just bear hug as quicker or because I got too many in the way. Keep moving her to learn best way it will get better but don't reach over to pull her over to you as you might pull something else! Good luck and do mind their fingers as I have just repaired 3 hands with 2 more to go, mind her ankles and knees. Socks are very good idea which I myself have used on a few occasions thank goodness.
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the living tribunal
17-07-2022, 10:35 PM
Welcome in, Flanders :welcome

I started with a Kimber, have a WM girl too now, so I know the process; pretty much everyone has called it right here :tu

Matt gloss
18-07-2022, 04:55 AM
Hello and :welcome :)


:D

BlackSky
24-07-2022, 09:59 AM
:welcome. I got Kira from Lucidtoys and her weight was more than I was expecting. Think shes around 36Kg.

https://www.lucidtoys.com/products/neojoy-kira-166cm-108-delta_152968

Raspberry1967
24-07-2022, 08:13 PM
Hi Flanders,
Same here, new owner and weight was an issue at first. I find it easiest to straighten my dolls legs and body, then gradually lift from behind her to a standing position placing arms around and under her boobs just above her waist. Once she’s standing upright all movement is a doddle :-)