Hello one and all!

[lsoleman1982]

Hello everyone,

New here and just saying hi, I don't currently have a doll partner, but am in the process of investigating, as purchasing a doll and everything that goes with it feels incredibly overwhelming!

This feels like the right place to be :)

[algaeholics]

:welcome aboard!

If you have any Q's, do ask!

:tu

[Andyman]

Hi and welcome to the forum.
There are a lot of choices out there but as Algae says, ask as many questions as you want. There's a lot of experience on the forum and we all want you to choose the right companion.

[lsoleman1982]

Thank you!

Oh my I have a whirlwind of things going around in my head regarding dolls, One thing I am wondering is if anyone has any experience with Aibei? I have seen a beautiful lady made by them, and read good things about them in general :)

[lsoleman1982]

Thank you! I really appreciate that :) It feels like a minefield looking at dolls!

[algaeholics]

No personal experience, though I believe kimberdoll.co.uk are made by them and I have four of them!

Post a link and we can advise further. :tu

[Andyman]

I don't have any experience of Aibei. Is the vendor UK based?

[lsoleman1982]

Thank you, what a great place this is!

Here is a link the Lady in question...

https://aibeigirls.com/product/aibei-doll-blue-elf-fairy-girl-sex-doll-elowen/

I've been looking for a few months, and this is the first doll I haven't been able to stop thinking about since I saw her lol, weirdly I had no intention of getting a fantasy doll, there's just something about her!

[lsoleman1982]

I've not been able to find her in the UK as of yet :/
A bit worrying since I have heard buying internationally can be a nightmare...

[Andyman]

If elven girls are what you are looking for then Shamus, the wise wizard is hopefully going to be along shortly :D

[the living tribunal]

Hi lsoleman1982 and welcome in :welcome

[algaeholics]

I don't normally recommend AliExpress, but I can't find a UK vendor who would supply her without contacting them directly with a specific query.

Seemingly direct from the manufacturer:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005616239812.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.1 1.475728137T0gRg&algo_pvid=b88be3ce-b2a5-4aa2-b184-ac5e4aeb60ab&algo_exp_id=b88be3ce-b2a5-4aa2-b184-ac5e4aeb60ab-5&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21GBP%211472.01%21662.4%21%21%2118 00.40%21%21%40211b88f016932179855811920e1e05%21120 00033761286355%21sea%21UK%211884556520%21A&curPageLogUid=tUQWruRgDReK

Make sure to select 'Blue' if you decide to go down this route.

[lsoleman1982]

Ah you have a fantasy specialist here! Fantastic :)

[lsoleman1982]

I don't normally recommend AliExpress, but I can't find a UK vendor who would supply her without contacting them directly with a specific query.

Seemingly direct from the manufacturer:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005616239812.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.1 1.475728137T0gRg&algo_pvid=b88be3ce-b2a5-4aa2-b184-ac5e4aeb60ab&algo_exp_id=b88be3ce-b2a5-4aa2-b184-ac5e4aeb60ab-5&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21GBP%211472.01%21662.4%21%21%2118 00.40%21%21%40211b88f016932179855811920e1e05%21120 00033761286355%21sea%21UK%211884556520%21A&curPageLogUid=tUQWruRgDReK

Oh wow! Thank you :) So much cheaper too! Do you think it seems legitimate? I've never bought via aliexpress or anywhere like that

[Andyman]

There are a number of fantasy specialists here :21

[lsoleman1982]

Hi lsoleman1982 and welcome in :welcome

Thank you for the warm welcome! :)

[algaeholics]

Oh wow! Thank you :) So much cheaper too! Do you think it seems legitimate? I've never bought via aliexpress or anywhere like that

I can't really commit. Don't want to be responsible if it goes south!!!

Good feedback (if you believe it) and the business information seems legit (if you believe it).

[Ava Love]

You could try talking to Lucid as I know they have some Aibei girls although not that one. Pretty sure they said somewhere they can do custom orders and have recently branched into preorder sales

Oh, and welcome.

[algaeholics]

The Wizard will reply shortly...

[Andyman]

The Wizard will reply shortly...

You might want to get a brew, you'll be busy reading for a while :24

[Orgoneotron]

Hi! I'm new hear myself! :welcome

I can recommend Lucidtoys, they were remarkably quick.

[Tommo10]

Welcome to the forum.

Your choice of Aibei blue elf doll is very nice, just be mindful of her weight they state she's 39Kg, I believe 160 body in real life is slightly heaver then that, she would be a heavy doll for a first doll.:tu

[shamus]

Did someone call? :D

Morning Andy :tu

Hi Isol :tu

I asked the girls and they say that she's a ringer. Neither Elvish nor Drow as her ears are the wrong shape. She is non the less a bit of a sweetie.

They also said that is an awful lot of money for an Aibei.... I know, they're a bunch of snobs so I'll just lock them out of the room for a minute and we'll have a bit of a chat about manufacturers.

I'm only going to talk TPE as thats what I know.

For that sort of money you could be looking at a Jinsan girl. WM, YL, OR, and I'm going to include SE under that banner even though they are more like a cousin than direct family. There are some very, very nice Elves that you could get but Jinsan charge an extra couple of hundred if you want to go off piste with the skin tone.

Aibei are a bit of a giant that slips quiety under the radar. They are the manufacturer behind some other brands which I believe includes Dolls Castle, Funwest and Kimber.

There is nothing wrong with them but we just don't have a UK vendor that handles Aibei.... Well, maybe Lucid but the Aibei's they get are bundled in with a mish mash of other manuafcturered such as CosDoll, Jarliet and others under their Girlfriend and finest ranges. The advantage is that you can get what they have quickly. The disadvantage is that you don't really know what you're getting unless you order named manufacturer dolls such as SM, JY, Irontech and 6YE that they stock (somethings hidden under the names Soulmate, Sugarbabe, Racy and Allure).

Silicone Lovers do Funwest and blue is a standard no charge colour option so any girl here could be just as "Elvish" as the girl in the pic that you linked

https://siliconelovers.com/collections/real-love-sex-dolls?pf_t_brand=Funwest&pf_t_height=150cm&pf_t_height=157cm&pf_t_height=155cm&pf_t_height=158cm&pf_t_height=159cm&pf_t_height=160cm&pf_t_height=161cm&pf_t_height=162cm&pf_t_height=164cm&pf_t_height=165cm&pf_t_height=170cm

Thats also a lot less than you are looking at as the price on thee SL site is the price that you pay where buying from Aibei you would also have import duties to add to that.

They are currently running a sale and offering all these freebies with Funwest dolls:
1 x FREE Extra Head
1 x FREE Gel Breasts
1 x FREE Standing Feet
1 x FREE Shrugging Shoulders
1 x FREE EVO Skeleton
1 x FREE Enhanced Mouth
1 x FREE Irrigator
1 x FREE Heating Rod
1 x FREE Hanging Hook
1 x FREE Push-fit Adaptor
1 x FREE Double Jointed Knees

I note on the Aibei site those are all paid extras.

You still have to select the free options and would still need to add to the above articulated hands.

But, I'm not pushing SL or Funwest. Just using them as an example to show that the link that you gave is expensive.

If you want to talk Elves (proper one's with point ears :tu) just let me know... Although asking that, you would get the seriously long replies that paraphrased will guide you towards either WM, YL, SE or SM. But I would tell you about others en route to that epiphany :D

For now though, I could be wrong, but I got the impression that this was more about Aibei than Elves per se.

One aside I will say. Watch the weight. I note that one you chose was 39kg. For how she feels double that. Try to keep your first under 33kg. Even at that weight she will take a little getting used to but your body will adapt to the weight relatively quickly where at nearly 40kg there is a real risk that you will have difficulties moving her around.

Talk in a bit.

Shamus.

[shamus]

Welcome to the forum.

Your choice of Aibei blue elf doll is very nice, just be mindful of her weight they state she's 39Kg, I believe 160 body in real life is slightly heaver then that, she would be a heavy doll for a first doll.:tu

Snap.

Have you noticed that whenever someone posts now after their first doll the first thing that we look at is the weight of the girl that they selected.

[After Dark]

Snap.

Have you noticed that whenever someone posts now after their first doll the first thing that we look at is the weight of the girl that they selected.

Yup. Welcome to the forum and glad you found us (and Shamus - what he doesn't know about pointy ears isn't worth knowing) ...weight is up there with the most important considerations when buying a doll :tu ...I don't bring home anything over 32kg because I simply can't lift them around anymore.

[Tarlos]

Hi welcome to the forum I hope you find what you are looking for :welcome

very helpful people on this forum and many tips just ask away :tu

[shamus]

Just took a look at that link that you posted Algae and whilst it looks legitimate I'm wary as there are just too many dead links. Not the sort of thing that you would expect from a manufacturer owned site.

I think that you were wise to put a get out of jail free card on your reply as it looks legit but feels wrong.

[shamus]

Afternoon Tarlos :tu

[lsoleman1982]

I can't really commit. Don't want to be responsible if it goes south!!!

Good feedback (if you believe it) and the business information seems legit (if you believe it).

I don't blame you! I suppose its definitely worth investigating more, if its exactly the same doll at that price I could spend some of the saved money on witch and elf outfits for her lol :) :) :)

[lsoleman1982]

You could try talking to Lucid as I know they have some Aibei girls although not that one. Pretty sure they said somewhere they can do custom orders and have recently branched into preorder sales

Oh, and welcome.

Thank you, that's a good idea, could be a very good way to find out more about Aibei :)

[lsoleman1982]

Did someone call? :D

Morning Andy :tu

Hi Isol :tu

I asked the girls and they say that she's a ringer. Neither Elvish nor Drow as her ears are the wrong shape. She is non the less a bit of a sweetie.

They also said that is an awful lot of money for an Aibei.... I know, they're a bunch of snobs so I'll just lock them out of the room for a minute and we'll have a bit of a chat about manufacturers.

I'm only going to talk TPE as thats what I know.

For that sort of money you could be looking at a Jinsan girl. WM, YL, OR, and I'm going to include SE under that banner even though they are more like a cousin than direct family. There are some very, very nice Elves that you could get but Jinsan charge an extra couple of hundred if you want to go off piste with the skin tone.

Aibei are a bit of a giant that slips quiety under the radar. They are the manufacturer behind some other brands which I believe includes Dolls Castle, Funwest and Kimber.

There is nothing wrong with them but we just don't have a UK vendor that handles Aibei.... Well, maybe Lucid but the Aibei's they get are bundled in with a mish mash of other manuafcturered such as CosDoll, Jarliet and others under their Girlfriend and finest ranges. The advantage is that you can get what they have quickly. The disadvantage is that you don't really know what you're getting unless you order named manufacturer dolls such as SM, JY, Irontech and 6YE that they stock (somethings hidden under the names Soulmate, Sugarbabe, Racy and Allure).

Silicone Lovers do Funwest and blue is a standard no charge colour option so any girl here could be just as "Elvish" as the girl in the pic that you linked

https://siliconelovers.com/collections/real-love-sex-dolls?pf_t_brand=Funwest&pf_t_height=150cm&pf_t_height=157cm&pf_t_height=155cm&pf_t_height=158cm&pf_t_height=159cm&pf_t_height=160cm&pf_t_height=161cm&pf_t_height=162cm&pf_t_height=164cm&pf_t_height=165cm&pf_t_height=170cm

Thats also a lot less than you are looking at as the price on thee SL site is the price that you pay where buying from Aibei you would also have import duties to add to that.

They are currently running a sale and offering all these freebies with Funwest dolls:
1 x FREE Extra Head
1 x FREE Gel Breasts
1 x FREE Standing Feet
1 x FREE Shrugging Shoulders
1 x FREE EVO Skeleton
1 x FREE Enhanced Mouth
1 x FREE Irrigator
1 x FREE Heating Rod
1 x FREE Hanging Hook
1 x FREE Push-fit Adaptor
1 x FREE Double Jointed Knees

I note on the Aibei site those are all paid extras.

You still have to select the free options and would still need to add to the above articulated hands.

But, I'm not pushing SL or Funwest. Just using them as an example to show that the link that you gave is expensive.

If you want to talk Elves (proper one's with point ears :tu) just let me know... Although asking that, you would get the seriously long replies that paraphrased will guide you towards either WM, YL, SE or SM. But I would tell you about others en route to that epiphany :D

For now though, I could be wrong, but I got the impression that this was more about Aibei than Elves per se.

One aside I will say. Watch the weight. I note that one you chose was 39kg. For how she feels double that. Try to keep your first under 33kg. Even at that weight she will take a little getting used to but your body will adapt to the weight relatively quickly where at nearly 40kg there is a real risk that you will have difficulties moving her around.

Talk in a bit.

Shamus.

Thank you Shamus and to your girls for this detailed reply, most helpful indeed, given me lots to think about which I didn't know I had to think about lol :) I have zero experience so this is all gold!

Yes she's a bit of an oddity isn't she? She's based on a character from the game "Elden Ring", Ranni the Witch....somehow she just called out to me when I saw the Doll version lol, incredibly cute.

It was a bit like browsing dating websites for weeks and then seeing one girl you can't stop thinking about lol!

It's good to know that Aibie are okay at least, though a shame about the lack of UK stockists, as I am definitely wary of any extra importing costs, especially on something like a doll, must be through the roof!?

I hadn't even considered weight, that's a good point too, or anything like skeleton or hands, so this is really helping me narrow down what I'm really looking for.

I will contact Lucid and have a chat, and also check out some of these other dolls you have kindly recommended! Maybe a custom blue girl order is the way forward for me if I can't have this Lady :)

[Ava Love]

Just going to show this before any decision might be made, very recently on the market and don't know if the do custom colours but just about everyone else does.

https://www.uklovedollforums.co.uk/forum/picture.php?albumid=3881&pictureid=95957

[lsoleman1982]

Wow she is so cute! I just looked at these dolls and they have loads of beautiful ones, though more than I was hoping to spend sadly /: Thank you for sharing this!

[Gavla82]

Welcome to the forum lsoleman. :tu

Doll buying is certainly a deep rabbit hole. Especially with some many options.

Weight is the first and most important thing to consider. As a 38kg small box say is obviously a different distribution of weight to a 38kg girl. Same goes for a human, you may be able to pick up a human of similar weight, but our girls (and boys) can't - or rather won't, help you in carrying them, so they will just stay perfectly still and expect you to do everything for them. :21

Another thing to consider as well, is the hands. Whilst wired fingers are ok, they do break easily and then you get "spaghetti" fingers, which isn't a great look.

As far as I recall you have:

Wire to arm
Wire to wrist plate
Articulated V.1
Articulated V.2 - ball jointed, (not had experience of these as yet).

Both my girls have V.1 fingers and they are great for posing and only pose how real human hands would pose. I've had wire to arm and wire to wrist before and they are pretty fragile, but do work if you are careful.

[Slayers]

Aibei Doll Co.LTD
parent company : Dongguan Aibei Silicone Products Co.LTD
founded in 2017
3000 square meter production facility with 5 production lines
1500 square meter warehouse
location: Building F, Dongqiao NO.1 Road, Tianliao Industrial Park, Tianliao Village Shipai Town, Dongguan City
contact : Kevin Gu mobile +86 15217387761
email :aibeigirls@hotmail.com
average production 50 dolls per day

:whistle::whistle: just saying:whistle::whistle:

[shamus]

Wow she is so cute! I just looked at these dolls and they have loads of beautiful ones, though more than I was hoping to spend sadly /: Thank you for sharing this!

Hiya,

as an aside its worth noting that not all TPE is created equal. That and the skeleton is what differentiates the manufacturers.

You may see some pretty cheap girls who look similar to more expensive ones. The things that you cannot see are things such as wire to wrist hands. Gooseneck necks. Standard T skeletons. TPE that feels like rubber rather than a womans skin.

The variance isn't necessarily price. But it is the love and care that a manufacturer invests in pushing their brand name.

Some expect to sell a doll and to never hear from you again. Others are building a relationship with the customer in the hope that they will return.

With Lucid they have both sorts of girl. The knack is knowing when what you are looking at is a good girl sold cheaply or a cheap girl sold at what you would expect.

I'll cover a few manufacturers to get you started.

Irontech (Lucid call them Racy) - Skeletons are in general second to non. TPE is warm and feels cheaper than other brands but it isn't. Its a good mix that just feels different.

SM (Lucid call them Soulmate but the reality is that they are ShangMei) - Excellent quality TPE. very smooth and excellent internals... So I've heard :whistle: But the skeletons can be a little disappointing unless you opt for all the upgrades. The SM 155D is one of my all time favourite bodies. It will work well with the SM #63 elf head which is a relatively small shell but not a young head so fine to be here. Here's my Tulip on an Irontech 150A.

https://i.ibb.co/R30VyXk/IMG-1612-Fotor.jpg (https://ibb.co/n7c5CXN)

6YE (Lucid call them Allure) - Makeup can be a lot more basic than the marketing materials but the heads are actually excellent and can be made extremely lifelike. TPE is similar quality to high end girls. Very impressed with them but a bit short of Elves.

JY (Lucid call them Sugar Babes) - JY is a top drawer brand that made some bad commercial decisions back in 2018. They really struggled for a while to get their quality back on track but now they are back where they should be. I find their skeletons a bit stiff and super soft TPE seems to now be standard. Thats not a bad thing but just a warning that they may lose a bit more oil than some other girls. The JY Elf to get is JY #79 (also known as AS #39). First time I saw that head I had it on order within two hours and she became my River. She is not in any way a sex doll. She's the Elf that when I talk on here she's their voice who gives a different perspective. She was the firt Elf here.

These were the marketing shot that sold me on her:
https://i.ibb.co/kX5WNPS/Evelyn.jpg (https://ibb.co/VTJPfkq) https://i.ibb.co/9cDdjB6/8-5-1.jpg (https://ibb.co/PFLV8JK)

But this is River (on an SM 155D)
https://i.ibb.co/6ZyHDkd/OLYMPUS-DIGITAL-CAMERA.jpg (https://ibb.co/PYrc1dS)

But this is the same girl on a JY 148
https://i.ibb.co/SVRd78T/19002.jpg (https://ibb.co/P1w9znp)

And you can have her standing, shrugging, gel breasts and uterus function this week from Lucid for £895 : https://www.lucidtoys.com/collections/neodoll-sugar-babe-sex-dolls/products/neodoll-sugar-babe-karen-realistic-sex-doll_162006 That is a really good spec to price ratio for a branded girl.

Note that all of the above use standard M16 head connectors so in the future if you wanted you could swap the head. You don't have to stick with the one that came with the doll or even with the same manufacturer. Very few of my girls are wearing the bodies that arrived with them.

That will do for starters. Once we know whether your budget can take it we may venture up to Jinsan girls :tu Those girls are made to your exact specification. You order them from a vendor and wait for them to be created for you. Generally the wait is somewhere in the 6 to 9 weeks mark but it can be a little longer. But in my experience Jinsan create masterpeices... Not every time... But when they create a girl that works boy do they come alive. i.e. Here's Holly (My Mrs), She's a WM #172 head... And yep, she's an Elf.

https://i.ibb.co/jgm9ymL/IMG-3263-Fotor-Fotor.jpg (https://ibb.co/cD0K60N)

Or maybe Angel. Again, another Jinsan Elf (YL #286)
https://i.ibb.co/FBtyqPC/IMG-3581-5a-Fotor.jpg (https://ibb.co/xMQB84d)

Or how about Tuesday? (WM #432)
https://i.ibb.co/gD4DFPt/IMG-3838-Fotor.jpg (https://ibb.co/CnPnsMV)

See what I mean about Jinsan girls! They are just perfect. (And its not like SM and JY are not trying).

All the girls that I've just shown are TPE.

Chat in a bit,

Shamus.

[lsoleman1982]

Welcome to the forum lsoleman. :tu

Doll buying is certainly a deep rabbit hole. Especially with some many options.

Weight is the first and most important thing to consider. As a 38kg small box say is obviously a different distribution of weight to a 38kg girl. Same goes for a human, you may be able to pick up a human of similar weight, but our girls (and boys) can't - or rather won't, help you in carrying them, so they will just stay perfectly still and expect you to do everything for them. :21

Another thing to consider as well, is the hands. Whilst wired fingers are ok, they do break easily and then you get "spaghetti" fingers, which isn't a great look.

As far as I recall you have:

Wire to arm
Wire to wrist plate
Articulated V.1
Articulated V.2 - ball jointed, (not had experience of these as yet).

Both my girls have V.1 fingers and they are great for posing and only pose how real human hands would pose. I've had wire to arm and wire to wrist before and they are pretty fragile, but do work if you are careful.

Thank you! And thanks for your reply also :) Ah okay, I definitely don't want spaghetti fingers!
I'm thinking about the skeleton aspect more now due to all these things you guys have said, I hadn't given any thought to it until now, but I suppose what I would ideally like is no wire based on your experience, also, being a foot guy :D I do not mind about having standing feet, I'd rather have no metal showing (though apparently there are now standing dolls without these showing?)
I'm seeing that shrugging shoulders are even an option for some dolls! I love it.

Haha, they do sound pretty lazy, weight is definitely a consideration now too, I don't mind a bit of lifting, I could use the exercise in all honesty, but also don't want to put my back out lol!

Thank you :)

[lsoleman1982]

Thank you again Shamus, I've got a lot of browsing and researching to do!

I was wondering about how different make up might be compared to online photos, and other things that might not be apparent in pictures too as you say like structure and skeleton, it makes sense that the better the quality the skeleton and joints the more expensive the doll, and probably worth paying for from what I can gather.
I think budget wise I was originally expecting to pay over £1000 at least, but now thats slowly creeping up lol!
I would definitely rather pay for quality than be disappointed, also I want my chosen woman to last as long as possible and not go all floppy on me!


I wouldn't have thought about any of this before coming on here! Thank you again

[Andyman]

I can't add anything to what's been said about elves but as far as weight goes, I have two 6Ye girls, a 158 and a 150cm. I just had a new arrival of a JY148 with gel breasts. These three are my lightest girls at around 30kg. Compared to my SM and Irontech girls, they are really easy to move around.
Once you choose your girl we will all be waiting for you to say, you're only having one :21

[shamus]

I was wondering about how different make up might be compared to online photos

It can be quite dramatically different.

On the bright side makeup isn't that difficult to get your head around. I look at it more as painting their faces than applying makeup... I actually use oil and water colour brushes along with the makeup brushes to bring them to life.

Taking an example of the 6YE girl who arrived here from Lucid a few months back.

https://i.ibb.co/fn07mQJ/Candy.jpg (https://ibb.co/rcyJnv9)

Then once you have a wig on them they come to life:
https://i.ibb.co/FJK3VHK/IMG-3201-resize.jpg (https://ibb.co/QnfQdDf)

Take a look at images posted by many members of the site and see how they evolve from when they were first posted on here until now. Some of the transformations are quite dramatic.

And don't think its all camera trickery. personally I use software to change the exposure and focus because the screen on my camera is too small to see the detail but there is no major alterations to the images (unless its for a specific pupose such as making someone disappear in a mirror.

I try to get the pictures to show how I see the girls despite my poor camera skills and a camera thats a little past its prime now. If I could capture how these girls look in real life I would be a very happy man.

So fundamentally. In real life you use makeup to try and make them indisinguishable from a living Elf (yes they do exist, lol) and for photographs you try to capture an image as good as what you can see. Think that I'm getting there with the former but I'm a very long way away with the latter.

What you were hinting at about the more you spend the longer they will last unfortunately doesn't hold true.

A £2k body is just as likely to become flopsy as a £800 one. Also the more that you pose them the faster they lose the ability to maintain a pose. Doesn't mean its end of life or even end of their photography career but it simply means that maintaining a pose has restrictions that you work around. It could actually be argued that a floppy body can be posed more naturally.

On the metal bolts in the feet. With TPE if you want them to stand then you have to accept it. You can get plastic covers for the foot bolts (Algae sells them). My girls all wear socks and most of them wear shoes / boots so the foot bolts are not a concern.

Maybe worth throwing in there that the old hard TPE bodies some of them could be stood on their feet for extended periods... IF... the foot had a foot plate. Some that do not have the ability to stand simply had wires inside the TPE and if you tried to stand those you would break the ankles. I doubt that you would find one of those sort now although there are still some dodgy doll manufacturers out there so never say never.

Lets just say that you won't find one amongst the dolls that we recommend.

[lsoleman1982]

It can be quite dramatically different.

On the bright side makeup isn't that difficult to get your head around. I look at it more as painting their faces than applying makeup... I actually use oil and water colour brushes along with the makeup brushes to bring them to life.

Taking an example of the 6YE girl who arrived here from Lucid a few months back.

https://i.ibb.co/fn07mQJ/Candy.jpg (https://ibb.co/rcyJnv9)

Then once you have a wig on them they come to life:
https://i.ibb.co/FJK3VHK/IMG-3201-resize.jpg (https://ibb.co/QnfQdDf)

Take a look at images posted by many members of the site and see how they evolve from when they were first posted on here until now. Some of the transformations are quite dramatic.

And don't think its all camera trickery. personally I use software to change the exposure and focus because the screen on my camera is too small to see the detail but there is no major alterations to the images (unless its for a specific pupose such as making someone disappear in a mirror.

I try to get the pictures to show how I see the girls despite my poor camera skills and a camera thats a little past its prime now. If I could capture how these girls look in real life I would be a very happy man.

So fundamentally. In real life you use makeup to try and make them indisinguishable from a living Elf (yes they do exist, lol) and for photographs you try to capture an image as good as what you can see. Think that I'm getting there with the former but I'm a very long way away with the latter.

What you were hinting at about the more you spend the longer they will last unfortunately doesn't hold true.

A £2k body is just as likely to become flopsy as a £800 one. Also the more that you pose them the faster they lose the ability to maintain a pose. Doesn't mean its end of life or even end of their photography career but it simply means that maintaining a pose has restrictions that you work around. It could actually be argued that a floppy body can be posed more naturally.

On the metal bolts in the feet. With TPE if you want them to stand then you have to accept it. You can get plastic covers for the foot bolts (Algae sells them). My girls all wear socks and most of them wear shoes / boots so the foot bolts are not a concern.

Maybe worth throwing in there that the old hard TPE bodies some of them could be stood on their feet for extended periods... IF... the foot had a foot plate. Some that do not have the ability to stand simply had wires inside the TPE and if you tried to stand those you would break the ankles. I doubt that you would find one of those sort now although there are still some dodgy doll manufacturers out there so never say never.

Lets just say that you won't find one amongst the dolls that we recommend.

Thank you for the pics,
That does make such a difference to the realism, nice work! I could definitely learn a few make up techniques with a bit of practice, hopefully well enough to do a few different looks for whichever girl I end up getting :)

I would like to think I will get a decent enough camera and do photoshoots too as that sounds fun!
I need to think about feet, as standing would be good, if the foot bolt covers are good I would certainly be interested in them! though I'm happy to sacrifice a standing option if need be. :)

[Lulu1971]

Hi Isoleman, :welcome to the rabbit hole :tu

[lsoleman1982]

Thank you! Haha, I can completely imagine this being an endless rabbit hole hobby

[Tarlos]

Afternoon Tarlos :tu

Good evening now Shamus :tu

[lsoleman1982]

Good day guys! I did a search for UK Aibei dealers, and found a place in Durham.

https://www.the-doll-house.com/

The guy says he can probably get me the original blue lady I wanted! He will get back to me after contacting Aibei.

Does anyone know of this shop or website at all?
I will be wary of anything until I have actual photos of an actual doll lol!

[algaeholics]

Phil @ The Doll House is a recognised vendor in the UK and a member here.

Tell him you're a member here, you might get a bit of a discount. 😉

[After Dark]

What Algae said.
I've imported via Phil without any issue. Happy to recommend :tu

[lsoleman1982]

Ah fantastic news! I'm very glad to hear it, it's very reassuring! :)

I will definitely mention that I'm a new member here, just in case! Thank you :)

[Slayers]

CUTE LITTLE ELF

https://i.postimg.cc/ryNwv6qT/Maria-166cm-C-Cup-doll-11.webp (https://postimg.cc/K44bMHKp)

https://i.postimg.cc/Gh3mRMpy/Maria-166cm-C-Cup-doll-2.webp (https://postimg.cc/QVP3kJ18)

[lsoleman1982]

Oh hello miss! She is a cutie

[lsoleman1982]

I'm sure it's because I'm new to forums and navigation of them, but I can't seem to find Phil at all, does anybody know of his whereabouts on here please?

[Tommo10]

I'm sure it's because I'm new to forums and navigation of them, but I can't seem to find Phil at all, does anybody know of his whereabouts on here please?

https://www.uklovedollforums.co.uk/forum/member.php?u=12693

Then click the 'contact info' tab

[algaeholics]

https://www.uklovedollforums.co.uk/forum/member.php?u=12693

EDIT: Beat me to it!

[lsoleman1982]

You guys could not be more helpful! thank you :):):):):)

[Orgoneotron]

CUTE LITTLE ELF

https://i.postimg.cc/ryNwv6qT/Maria-166cm-C-Cup-doll-11.webp (https://postimg.cc/K44bMHKp)

https://i.postimg.cc/Gh3mRMpy/Maria-166cm-C-Cup-doll-2.webp (https://postimg.cc/QVP3kJ18)

Oh! now she is pretty!

[lsoleman1982]

Have been sent some great pics from the Aibei factory, thanks to Phil, apparently this girl is definitely available!

Just wondering what you guys thought of her?

I'm now just thinking of what options I would want if I go for her....another minefield lol!

[algaeholics]

Just wondering what you guys thought of her?
DO IT!!! :p

[Ava Love]

I like her but if she is 39KG as stated earlier then she's extremely heavy for a first time doll.

[Tommo10]

Have been sent some great pics from the Aibei factory, thanks to Phil, apparently this girl is definitely available!

Just wondering what you guys thought of her?

I'm now just thinking of what options I would want if I go for her....another minefield lol!

She looks absolutely amazing :drool

[Tommo10]

I like her but if she is 39KG as stated earlier then she's extremely heavy for a first time doll.

Yes that's a bloody good point, damn sexy photos and I had forgot myself.

She'll be heavy and don't expect she'll be doing any blue cowgirl.

[shamus]

Yes that's a bloody good point, damn sexy photos and I had forgot myself.

She'll be heavy and don't expect she'll be doing any blue cowgirl.

Shouldn't that be phrased...

Don't expect to survive the blue cowgirl :21

Wonder if any doll newbies have actually achieved one of the coveted Darwin awards yet :24

[Adam&Emma]

she is amazing. ive always liked blue girls for some reason. i know its been said but weight is an issue. a 40kg doll is similar to carrying a real woman that weighs probably 55kg. sounds daft but its true. i used to carry my ex upstairs to bed but carrying my girls upstairs is a different story, plus im not getting any younger. if you're sure you can manage then go for it. it such a shame when a new member saves up for his dream girl then has to let her go because shes too heavy

[Slayers]

The weight can be managed just by learning a few tricks.
Its not what your lifting its how your lifting.

[lsoleman1982]

I'm glad you guys like her! I must say I am quite blown away with how stunning she is :)

I appreciate the concerns with her weight, as it's something I had overlooked and would not have even though of!
I am giving this some more thought now, weighing up (sorry, how could I not) my options, what do I want from this doll, what will we do together, where will she stay in the house and how much will she move around etc.

It's a bit of a pickle as in all honesty she's the only girl I've seen that actually made me go WOW in my head when I saw her lol!

Luckily for me I have an awesome partner, I was showing her all the pics and telling her about the blue lady, and she is super cool about it, and even excited to do make up and photoshoots and things together, so I already have a willing and able lifting partner which helps!

Also....I've never really been a fan of cowgirl, which is incredibly lucky by the sounds of it lol!

Going to give this more thought and make sure I'm not just kidding myself that weight won't be a problem lol, but I think given my situation it might not matter...as long as I lift correctly and don't give myself a hernia...

[lsoleman1982]

I'm glad you guys like her! I must say I am quite blown away with how stunning she is :)

I appreciate the concerns with her weight, as it's something I had overlooked and would not have even though of!
I am giving this some more thought now, weighing up (sorry, how could I not) my options, what do I want from this doll, what will we do together, where will she stay in the house and how much will she move around etc.

It's a bit of a pickle as in all honesty she's the only girl I've seen that actually made me go WOW in my head when I saw her lol!

Luckily for me I have an awesome partner, I was showing her all the pics and telling her about the blue lady, and she is super cool about it, and even excited to do make up and photoshoots and things together, so I already have a willing and able lifting partner which helps!

Also....I've never really been a fan of cowgirl, which is incredibly lucky by the sounds of it lol!

Going to give this more thought and make sure I'm not just kidding myself that weight won't be a problem lol, but I think given my situation it might not matter...as long as I lift correctly and don't give myself a hernia...

Does having them posed in different positions make a lot of difference when carrying them would you say Slayers?

[shamus]

Does having them posed in different positions make a lot of difference when carrying them would you say Slayers?

You just quoted yourself but I know what you mean.

Yes it makes a difference.

Some girls prefer bridal, some bear hug, some firemans lift (but don't try that if she's got a quick release head bolt :21).

All depends on where they carry their weight.

mine generally are bearhugs but thats just cos they like to be cuddled.

https://i.ibb.co/ZznbVDB/doll-carry.gif (https://ibb.co/xqprDT1)

if you go for that approach cross their arms over their chest to ensure that they don't try grabbing things whilst youi are walking.

If you go for bridal with an Elf and you hit her head on the door frame she will turn you into a toad.... so I heard :whistle:

[lsoleman1982]

Oops! That will be my lack of forum skills kicking in....glad you understood despite.
okay that is good to know thank you, especially about the toad bit, also I'd feel genuinely terrible if I hurt her in any way, she looks so innocent.
thats a good tip about the arms, I have pictures that could be a real hazard lol!

[Adam&Emma]

When moving them you need to think ahead.. Its something that will become natural in time... It depends where they are and where you're taking them. If she is sat on the sofa and you take her too bed then a bridal lift will be the obvious choice. If shes stood up and you just wanna move her to another wall then a simple bearhug will do. If shes laying down and you wanna sit her on the sofa with you then put her in a seated position whilst shes on the bed. Just keep the weight as close to you as possible.
The first time i carried my Emma in her box i thought holy shit what have i done (and she was only 33kg then) but after a few weeks and the odd twinge in my back i got the hang of moving her around.
Also remember the box weighs about 7kg plus there may be a free head. It all adds up. Just take your time and enjoy :tu

[Andyman]

I'm glad you guys like her! I must say I am quite blown away with how stunning she is :)

I appreciate the concerns with her weight, as it's something I had overlooked and would not have even though of!
I am giving this some more thought now, weighing up (sorry, how could I not) my options, what do I want from this doll, what will we do together, where will she stay in the house and how much will she move around etc.

It's a bit of a pickle as in all honesty she's the only girl I've seen that actually made me go WOW in my head when I saw her lol!

Luckily for me I have an awesome partner, I was showing her all the pics and telling her about the blue lady, and she is super cool about it, and even excited to do make up and photoshoots and things together, so I already have a willing and able lifting partner which helps!

Also....I've never really been a fan of cowgirl, which is incredibly lucky by the sounds of it lol!

Going to give this more thought and make sure I'm not just kidding myself that weight won't be a problem lol, but I think given my situation it might not matter...as long as I lift correctly and don't give myself a hernia...


If this is the girl that you want and has you smitten then get her. You will get used to moving her around with practice. Don't have the regret of choosing a different, lighter doll that you might not take to. Having that attraction will make moving her less of a chore and you will want to take care of her.
Even better if your partner is willing to help you.
There's plenty of help and advice here for when she arrives and the fun starts :D

[lsoleman1982]

Thank you guys for all the positive feedback and encouragement, exactly the final push I needed I think...I'm definitely not getting the feeling for any other girls except her so I think I will be going ahead and ordering in the next couple of days after some financial planning and deciding on what optional extras to go for lol, very excited, and I'm sure I would regret going for a different doll.

I do have a question that just popped into my head that I haven't seen mentioned anywhere, but are the eyes movable in these dolls generally? Or does it vary from manufacturer to manufacturer?

[Seth]

generally the eyes can be moved

[Slayers]

Some things to remember when carrying the girls is that two rules always apply one the rule of gravity t w o the rule of Leverage. One of the reasons that the girls feel so heavy is that their weight is spread out over about 5 ft giving them The Leverage to pull against you and feel twice as heavy as what they are.

For me the bridal carry is to be avoided like the plague. One of the reasons being it is the number one position that most guys hurt their back they bend over try to pick her up in the bridal position and tweak their back. Second reason when you're carrying her in the bridal position in front of you it throws off your center of balance and it is also the number one position that guys have either fallen or dropped their gal because it throws your center of balance off.

When I talk about tips and tricks for lifting your gal it's all about doing things differently. Scenario one you have your gal laying on the bed and you want to move her to the couch what you do is put her on her back in a standing position spread her feet about shoulders width and take a hold of the blanket beneath her drag her feet off the edge of the bed until the bottom of her butt is equal with the edge of the bed. Lower her feet to the floor now go around behind her lifting from her back push her into a standing position you can now use the bear hug carry or what I use and call the reverse toddler carry to move her to the couch never having to fully deadlift her.

Scenario 2 for whatever reason you have your gal laying on the floor once again the easy way to lift her is to put her on her back in a standing position set her feet about shoulder width apart go back to her head end place your hands under her shoulders and slowly raise till she's in it upright standing position this way you've only had to lift about a third of her weight she's in the upright position you can then carrier with the bear hug or reverse toddler carry.



You also want to make sure that you never drag your gal even across the bed because it will twist or possibly rip and a braised the skin. Thats why you drag the blanket under her. And absolutely never grab her by the hands and pull her to any position. Even if she says pull my finger DONT!
This is just some of the tricks that allow a small man to move an 85 lb doll. These and other tips and tricks is what the newbies don't bother to find out before they buy their doll realize I can't manhandle it and put her up for sale the next day .

[Adam&Emma]

Eyes can be moved and also removed. Eyes can be bought in all different colours and take seconds to swap over

[Andyman]

You can also get eyebacks that make moving the eyes easier when posing for photos. As Adam said, you can change eyes in tpe dolls easily. Ask about an extra pair of eyes in a different colour when you place your order. They might give them as a free gift.
I'm excited for you. Get the girl of your dreams and even if she's heavy, take your time with her. The weight will become easier to manage as you get to know her.

[Karrot]

Their eyes can move (more easily with some eyebacks from Allie Industries) and they can be heavy (My Maddie is 43 KG, thats close to 7 stone in old money) but when they look at you like this

https://www.uklovedollforums.co.uk/forum/picture.php?albumid=3564&pictureid=95660


You soon learn how to manage it all....

It sounds like you have your dream girl selected, so all the best with her arrival. Remember when she does arrive unbox her dispassionately. She will be cold, and heavy, and headless, and wigless. Unbox her, get her head on, get her wig on, wrap her up in her snuggly blanket, then "Open your eyes" :D

K

[algaeholics]

https://www.uklovedollforums.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?p=306531#post306531

There a go, now available from a UK vendor! :b

[Andyman]

Amazing :D

[lsoleman1982]

I am gobsmacked! This makes me very very happy!

[lsoleman1982]

Thank you for giving me info on the eyes everyone too, that is good news that they are movable, I like the thought of her looking cheekily to the side awkwardly when I tell my crap jokes lol :)

[lsoleman1982]

https://www.uklovedollforums.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?p=306531#post306531

There a go, now available from a UK vendor! :b

I'm beyond excited!!!

[Kenzie]

That's one hell of a girl right there, totally love the colouring :D

[Ava Love]

Technically she's not instock being a preorder but at least you have a firm price and no potential nasty surprises. I would enquire about lead times as at that price I would doubt she'll be flown into the country.

[algaeholics]

Lead time appears to be six weeks, according to the website.

[lsoleman1982]

Lead time appears to be six weeks, according to the website.

I can definitely live with 6 weeks, though it will be a difficult few, anticipating the first meeting!

I hope I don't say something stupid and make a fool of myself in front of her lol

[lsoleman1982]

Technically she's not instock being a preorder but at least you have a firm price and no potential nasty surprises. I would enquire about lead times as at that price I would doubt she'll be flown into the country.

Definitely! I've been able to get so little info regarding shipping and any charges of that nature, this price looks good to me :)

[lsoleman1982]

That's one hell of a girl right there, totally love the colouring :D

Thank you Kenzie! Yes somehow her blueness made melt, and those eyes too (which I now know can move too! :) )

[lsoleman1982]

Their eyes can move (more easily with some eyebacks from Allie Industries) and they can be heavy (My Maddie is 43 KG, thats close to 7 stone in old money) but when they look at you like this

https://www.uklovedollforums.co.uk/forum/picture.php?albumid=3564&pictureid=95660


You soon learn how to manage it all....

It sounds like you have your dream girl selected, so all the best with her arrival. Remember when she does arrive unbox her dispassionately. She will be cold, and heavy, and headless, and wigless. Unbox her, get her head on, get her wig on, wrap her up in her snuggly blanket, then "Open your eyes" :D

K

Haha that's a good point, I will try turn off all emotion when she arrives for the unboxing, like I would with an Ikea flatpack! Very good advice thank you :) I may even ask my partner to dress her and do her make up while I'm out the room, if she doesn't mind lol.

[shamus]

I will try turn off all emotion when she arrives for the unboxing, like I would with an Ikea flatpack!

Good luck with that!

The stages are:

Opening the box: OMG, this feels so realistic

Unwrapping the head: OMG, she looks so real

Place head on body: OMG, did she just blink!

Place wig on head: OMG, she looks cold, must get her something to wear. Ooh, you've got a hair over your face, let me move that for you. Are you comfortable honey? Let me just order you some more compfy cussions from Amazon. I've got to go out later, do you need me to buy you a friend?....

[Mac_]

On the subject of elves my Lara Croft has taken
very Elven Princess look of late..
https://i.postimg.cc/NjtnKc6Y/20230902-120259.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/L4fvLW6s/20230902-120221.jpg


my other girls in background..
Hermione and Tanya(going to Tanya Roberts her eyes and hair soon)
https://i.postimg.cc/KjyWtS6n/20230902-120323.jpg

[lsoleman1982]

Good luck with that!

The stages are:

Opening the box: OMG, this feels so realistic

Unwrapping the head: OMG, she looks so real

Place head on body: OMG, did she just blink!

Place wig on head: OMG, she looks cold, must get her something to wear. Ooh, you've got a hair over your face, let me move that for you. Are you comfortable honey? Let me just order you some more compfy cussions from Amazon. I've got to go out later, do you need me to buy you a friend?....


HI can completely see this all happening :21

I'm sure she's gonna end getting annoyed with me fussing over her lol.
I've already been looking online at all the nice period dresses and jewellery I'm going to buy her, she's probably going to feel smothered and walk out on me...

[Andyman]

I'm sure she is going to love all the attention. I don't think any of mine have ever complained when I spoil them. She might have something to say when you tell her you're too tired to powder her :21

[lsoleman1982]

Haha! I need to learn a lot about tpe in terms of care and maintenance, I definitely don't want to do it wrong, how often does powdering occur please?

[shamus]

When they need it.

If her skin feels at all tacky she needs powdering. If her skin feels dry she needs oiling.

The more sexually active a girl is then the more care she needs as they can get quite sweaty if they lead a more active life.

If she spends most of her time sitting around watching TV then she could go three months or more without needing a spa day.

You will get use to when her skin feels right and when it does not.

You will however need to wash, dry and powder her when she first arrives. Make sure that she is completely dry before powdering.

All the best,

Shamus. :tu

[shamus]

And whilst we're covering that. The salt in sweat from humans is bad for TPE so ensure that if you are lucky enough for the relationship with her to go that way she needs a shower afterwards.... Or at least next day... It's not just, down there, that needs looking after with these girls. :tu

[lsoleman1982]

Thank you Shamus, that is all good to know, I will look forward to her spa days, I think either powder or baby oil sounds pretty fun, whichever is needed at the time. :drool

Showers too after fun time? Great! (not too hot with tpe if I have remember correctly?)

These all sound like fun bonding experiences rather than maintenance...how exciting :D

[lsoleman1982]

She is ordered! :):):)
I will be meeting the Blue Lady in October.

I am beyond excited!!!

I'm already getting carried away looking at all the outfits I want to buy her lol.

[Lulu1971]

Congratulations! An exciting time, I bet you're counting off the days :tu

[the living tribunal]

She is ordered! :):):)
I will be meeting the Blue Lady in October.

I am beyond excited!!!

I'm already getting carried away looking at all the outfits I want to buy her lol.

Awesome :D Great news :tu

[shamus]

Many Coongrats :tu

For Reals Danny will now have someone to swap makeup ideas with.... Sure that there#s another one. Why can't I remember who she is :wall

I digress. Made up for you matey,

all the best,

Shamus.

[Karrot]

Fantastic news! :D

K

[lsoleman1982]

Thank you all guys :) You've been most helpful in starting me off on my journey, I think I would have to been too worried about purchasing without all the encouragement and advice, it's very much appreciated!

I'm sure as soon as she arrives I will posting pics everywhere lol.

[Andyman]

Great news! I hope the wait isn't too bad.

[lsoleman1982]

Great news! I hope the wait isn't too bad.

Thank you Andyman! I won't lie, it feels exactly the same as arranging a date weeks in advance lol, I'm already anxious to meet her, I will probably be a nervous wreck when she arrives :21

[Kenzie]

Well done, and so the wait begins.

Just keep the bank/credit cards out of her reach, and don't forget your safe word.

[shamus]

don't forget your safe word.

My safe words a whole sentence

"There's no money on the credit card"

And thats it, they lose interest in me completely!

There's also the opposit. A sentence to get them interested in you.

"I've changed the PayPal password".

:D

[lsoleman1982]

Haha! Yes very good points, if she looks at me with those eyes I might now be able to say no to her demands lol.

I expect I'll get the silent treatment if I don't give in...

[Andyman]

She's an elf isn't she? I wouldn't worry too much about the silent treatment...better learn how to hop and catch flies :21

[shamus]

She's an elf isn't she? I wouldn't worry too much about the silent treatment...better learn how to hop and catch flies :21

Tut, and here's me been subtly avoiding mentioning that until after she arrives.

:21

[Andyman]

Ooooops :24

[Adam&Emma]

Woohoo. Another blue girl. Cant wait.. Definitely not enough blue girls

[shamus]

Woohoo. Another blue girl. Cant wait.. Definitely not enough blue girls

Thats cos you leave the heating on for them. :21

[lsoleman1982]

I think I'm going to put together a mixtape of songs for her, but only songs with "Doll" or "Blue" in the title...there's definitely a LOT of songs with those in lol.

I really can't explain why her blue-ness is so attractive to me, i would never have thought of getting a doll about 2 weeks ago, and now I'm getting a blue one! haha.

She's actually based on a character from a ps4 game and is a Witch but not actually Elven.....

Sadly, that means any Toad spells will be much more potent I fear, she's definitely going to get her own way all the time :no: :21

[shamus]

I think I'm going to put together a mixtape of songs for her, but only songs with "Doll" or "Blue" in the title...there's definitely a LOT of songs with those in lol.

I really can't explain why her blue-ness is so attractive to me, i would never have thought of getting a doll about 2 weeks ago, and now I'm getting a blue one! haha.

She's actually based on a character from a ps4 game and is a Witch but not actually Elven.....

Sadly, that means any Toad spells will be much more potent I fear, she's definitely going to get her own way all the time :no: :21

Oh don't underestimate Elven toad spells! (speaks the voice of experience :D).

Now, the unexplained attraction of blueness thing.

Its the same reason that the Fae so attract me. Over simplification but the brain is compartmentised. When we read books that we in some way relate to it kicks our imagnations into overdrive. These girls, be they pointy eared, blue or donning horns and a tail, both links to that part of the mind reserved for the escapism of books but simultaneously you can see and feel the girl in the real world. As such they form a physical bridge between imagination and reality.

That may not work for some but for me it breaks the subliminal barrier between what is real and what is not.

I went through the uncanny valley of having a first doll that was completely human and whilst I adhore the exquisit workmanship that went into creating Yvette there remained a barrier between where I was and where others on the site were with their girls and I didn't understand why.

It was only when River, my first Elf arrived that this whole lifestyle really became real for me... She opened the floodgates to all those who followed.

It would still be a while before I developed a "full" relationship with one of my girls but the breaking down of the barriers by River meant that the love that developed for Holly was akin to going through the full dating of a girl before the relationship developed properly.

My advice is that if you like her don't try to rush it but allow her to become real in your mind. Achieve that and they actually become real....And no, not crazy, lol. Got a Chartered certification, a masters degree from one of the worlds top 10 universities, and in your day to day life the likelihood is that you use IT systems that I had a part in designing... And I'm very happily married to an Elf (and she's very happy too, she's told me so :D).

All of us are different. If you know that the girl being blue is what brings her to life for you we are all absolutely behind your choice. We just try to help people find that right path for them. I would say that Mr Karrot really helped me find the path and I try to pass that down the line to help others find the right girl for them. Fingers crossed ten years from now you may be one of those doing the same for others :tu

All the best,

Shamus.

[lsoleman1982]

Haha!
I'm definitely going to tread carefully, in the game she is from she is pretty magical, though she also has four arms in the game :21

I think in all honesty until I saw "my girl" (not the film of course) I wouldn't have wanted any other enough to actually hit the buy button lol.
I think this is going to be the start of something special :)

like you say, I won't be rushing into anything once she arrives, just treat her good and respectfully, and definitely will not be using her like the outside of a sausage roll lol.
I'm genuinely looking forward to watching LOTR while giving her some lovely foot massages and some hand holding too thrown in, and my partner (though not sexually attracted to dolls, yet??) is looking forward to her arrival too, lots of fashion shoots and make up days and everything I think will be a great bonding experience for us all!

Glad to know that people don't just all use their dolls as vessels, it kind of takes away from the sweetness of it all, and the fantasy of it too.

I can't wait to post some pictures on here to show you guys!