Hello

[Arthur1960]

Damn, it's a real shame to see that Lucid are still using WM pics that have been manipulated/cropped etc. I was a bit naive to think they had removed all such pics and started to use their own. Of course pics taken by mandos drive sales of WM dolls, for good reason as clearly he puts in a tremendous amount of work on his shoots but for another company to try and sell another product off the back of that is obviously plain wrong so I for one will be keen to see how Lucid respond before even considering using them in the future.

[shamus]

Originally Posted by mandos

Shamus, Algae!

Always got your back matey.... Cos if I didn't my Elves might kill me.

[DeleteK?arlos]

Originally Posted by mandos

I love you and want to have your babies, but that’s a story for another thread

Sounds like one for The Hotspot, and I may actually have to get on my gaiters and wade into the filth to read it.

No homo.

[Willus]

Wait a minute... So tying together this and something I learned in another thread:

I'd have to pay £35 for a picture of the doll I'm buying from Lucid, which they are advertising using stolen copyright pictures of a different doll made by a different company?

That's shady as fuck.


Mandos, your pictures are incredible and are the reason I bought my dolls. Thank you for being an inspiration.

[Edit Samurai] Sorry willus, i have had to delete your last line in this post as there are better ways to get your point accross without using that terminology.

[Samurai]

Originally Posted by mandos

You are not the bad guy here Sam. I love you and want to have your babies, but that’s a story for another thread

Hi Mandos, trying to keep the peace around here is not easy at times, so yeah sometimes in order to keep things civil i have to be the bad guy, it's not intentional it's just part of the job.

Sadly your not my type but most of your dolls are !!

Anyway had the snip years agao..

Sam..

[shamus]

Originally Posted by Willus

I'd have to pay £35 for a picture of the doll I'm buying from Lucid, which they are advertising using stolen copyright pictures of a different doll made by a different company?

It gets worse.

Mandos's pics also appear in the clearance section as images of different dolls to the ones that advertised as imperfects (RF190 and RF196).

Come on Lucid, I thought this had all been sorted out... You're better than this.

Even if the manufacturer does supply you with the pics its just not on using images that you must know are of WM 157B's to sell Jarliet (I assume from our previous chat) 158D's.

Can you please remove all of those pics from your site.

Many thanks,

Shamus.

[shamus]

Originally Posted by Samurai

trying to keep the peace around here is not easy at times

wadda ya mean. We're lovely we is

[Willus]

Originally Posted by Willus

[Edit Samurai] Sorry willus, i have had to delete your last line in this post as there are better ways to get your point accross without using that terminology.

But they're basically scam artists preying on the fact that most people who will buy from them are people making impulse purchases after finding a cheap option. They're banking on the fact that the majority of people won't contest a wrongly advertised doll because they either don't know any better or they're embarrassed to do so.

From what I understand they have been made aware of the copyright infringement of their images a long time ago and yet they persist in using those images without consent.

Either they don't know the products they sell and are incapable of comparing an image to a physical object or they are knowingly continuing to falsely advertise using Mandos' images to promote completely different (and lower quality) products.

That is utterly disgusting, and if it were any other industry they'd have been crushed in court long ago. It's like selling a VW Golf using images of a Mercedes A180. Telling them to "sort their shit out" as I did and you edited is being POLITE. I don't understand why they're allowed to be here and take advantage of free publicity.

If they had any integrity they would have removed those images long ago and diligently checked every single image they are provided by their suppliers moving forward. They didn't do that, so I have to assume they are deliberate scammers.

[Tommo10]

The thread is now locked, pending investigation over the photos.

[Samurai]

Originally Posted by Willus

But they're basically scam artists preying on the fact that most people who will buy from them are people making impulse purchases after finding a cheap option. They're banking on the fact that the majority of people won't contest a wrongly advertised doll because they either don't know any better or they're embarrassed to do so.

From what I understand they have been made aware of the copyright infringement of their images a long time ago and yet they persist in using those images without consent.

Either they don't know the products they sell and are incapable of comparing an image to a physical object or they are knowingly continuing to falsely advertise using Mandos' images to promote completely different (and lower quality) products.

That is utterly disgusting, and if it were any other industry they'd have been crushed in court long ago. It's like selling a VW Golf using images of a Mercedes A180. Telling them to "sort their shit out" as I did and you edited is being POLITE. I don't understand why they're allowed to be here and take advantage of free publicity.

If they had any integrity they would have removed those images long ago and diligently checked every single image they are provided by their suppliers moving forward. They didn't do that, so I have to assume they are deliberate scammers.

Hi Willus, I just like to give people the benifit of the doubt, and maybe even give second chances to people who may have changed their ways.

That's not to say you are wrong, in fact you make valid points but i prefer to get as many facts as i can before i judge and get the other parties side of the story.

I read above that these are the photos sent to them from their supplier, if this is true then initialy they are not directly responsible, however once informed that these photos are "Stolen" Or not an acurate description of the item they are selling then at this point if they do nothing to correct this then they do become jointly responsible for "scamming thier customers" and if we allow them to advertise on this site and do nothing the we are also in some way responsible for new doll owners getting something that they have not paid for or buying a fake doll etc..

But there are ways of dealing with this other than going straight for the jugular, It's nice to be nice.

I refer to a scene in the movie Roadhouse with Patrick Swayze when he says Be nice untill it's time not to be nice....

Love that bit..

We are on it ( In a nice way)

Samurai..